32 Cabriolet that was in the same Spokane family for 75 years

jaded iconoclast

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Re: 32 Cabriolet that was in the same Spokane family for 75 years
« Reply #32 on: June 13, 2018, 09:59:50 AM »
I also checked and the Muir Brothers shop was likely within 3 miles of Turnwall's house... on the way to the seller's house!
Notice on the application just above the "Name of the legal owner" the "Has motor been changed" is faintly marked, "no."
If the motor number is valid, it means this car was the 12,102nd V-8 1932 Ford built... very early considering that 203,126 V-8s were built in the 1932 model year. It gives a whole new meaning to the phrase, "Early Ford V-8."
Have you crawled under it and checked to see if it has the line on the frame for the fenders? HB32 on here has an early production deuce pickup, theres no frame reveal.
I sent HB32 a pm last night with a link to this thread.
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Hamtown Al

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Re: 32 Cabriolet that was in the same Spokane family for 75 years
« Reply #33 on: June 17, 2018, 12:02:37 PM »
My buddy, Bobby Built, met me and 4 more pals for breakfast last Wednesday morning and he remembered to bring along an old oil gauge that came with some of the many Model A projects he seems to be attracting of late.
A 10 pound gauge. I couldn't wait to get it home and installed.
Of course, like all supposedly simple changes, a few "opportunities" presented themselves.
First, the back of the 10 pound gauge did not have a female fitting the same size as the one in the car.
Secondly, the dang gauge would not go into the hole the old gauge came out of!
Here are the gauges with the engine off:

Hamtown Al

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Re: 32 Cabriolet that was in the same Spokane family for 75 years
« Reply #34 on: June 17, 2018, 12:06:23 PM »
Now here are the same gauges with the engine running:

Hamtown Al

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« Reply #35 on: June 17, 2018, 12:07:33 PM »
Notice the next to no change on the oil pressure gauge. This is what I've been using.
I had to spend some time sorting through my various carefully organized parts inventory that was scattered across two garages. I finally found a combination to adapt the new gauge to use the existing oil line that went to the original gauge.
Next I set about carefully expanding the hole in the gauge panel with a grinding attachment in my drill... make two or three "laps" around the hole and test fit. Then two or three more laps then test. I lost track but I finally got the gauge to just fit the expanded hole.
Then, I realized the dang thing to hold the gauge taunt in the hole was WAY too short! Some more rummaging around in the carefully organized inventory finally found one that seemed about right.
I mounted the gauge, secured it in the gauge panel, and hooked up the original oil pressure line from the engine.
I fired it up.
WOW! What a difference a gauge makes!
Here is the new gauge after starting it up:

Hamtown Al

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Re: 32 Cabriolet that was in the same Spokane family for 75 years
« Reply #36 on: June 17, 2018, 12:08:54 PM »
Here it is after I let it idle way down... less than 300 rpm; maybe 250.

Hamtown Al

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Re: 32 Cabriolet that was in the same Spokane family for 75 years
« Reply #37 on: June 17, 2018, 12:09:34 PM »
Now if I can get the alternator adjusted so it isn't charging quite so much all the time... some of us are never happy!
I am very happy about the oil gauge and what it shows. I felt it was fine but it is reassuring to actually see it on a gauge. It also gives me a continuing frame of reference about what the engine oil pressure is doing. The gauge should help me to better learn just what is normal for the car.
Happy Al

Hamtown Al

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Re: 32 Cabriolet that was in the same Spokane family for 75 years
« Reply #38 on: June 17, 2018, 12:10:48 PM »
After the above posts with the new oil pressure gauge, a number of fellows said that alternator must be on steroids!
I thought the same and with a great deal of help from a fellow club member, John H; we(actually mostly HE!) figured out most if not all of the problem.
As suggested above, John tested the output and sure enough the alternator was cranking. After some on-line research that included finding a youtube video on testing whether the voltage regulator or the alternator was failing; we determined that the voltage regulator was not regulating.
I called Oreillys and they had two choices for replacement voltage regulators in stock. I opted for the more expensive one that had a long warranty versus the cheaper one. Sometimes it pays to invest a little more for the long run.
Especially when it only costs you $4.00 more!!($23 vs $19)!!
We also determined that some of the wiring was not exactly as intended so we sorted that out and fixed it, too... and the updates worked!
It still seemed to want to overcharge a bit but not as much as before.
Before making any other changes, I tested it this morning and all seems good.

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Re: 32 Cabriolet that was in the same Spokane family for 75 years
« Reply #39 on: June 17, 2018, 12:12:37 PM »
I'm hoping it stays this way.
Also, I mentioned some time back that when I first drove the car to get gas that it mysteriously had no power and when I wiggled the wiring under the hood, it came back to life.
As part of running down the charging issues, old "dead in the water" reared his ugly head again.
The good news is I determined that it was being caused by an old connection from a later wire to the original 1932 Ford wiring connection. I clipped the "new" wire and installed another male end and crimped slightly the original 1932 Ford female connector and put it back together. Hopefully, old "dead in the water" is gone!

I'm expecting the new front spring this week and hopefully the wheels the following week.

BTW, the car got rave reviews at the ice cream shop again yesterday. One lady said she knew it was a 32 Ford and offered to drive it around the block for me to keep the car in good working order. When I offered the keys she changed her mind!

I like having the readable oil pressure gauge but discovered what I already knew in that the pressure went to essentially zero after it warmed up and was at idle. It all seems to be working and that is a good thing.

I also finally tracked down a local Model A specialist that updates water pumps and distributors and he said he also works on the Model B engines as well. He's looking for a spare 32 water pump to update for me as well as checking for any "speed" equipment he might have for the 4 cylinder.
I'll keep y'all posted.

Just got back from a test drive and the voltage regulator seems to be doing its job. Happy Day!

Forgot to mention that I earlier fabricated some linkage to get the choke to work and that helps overall use of the car as well. Nothing fancy at all. I can post details if interested but really very simple process that just added a bracket that transferred a pull in one direction into a pull in the other direction. The choke also incorporates a fast idle which helps, too.

Off soon to family activities. Enjoy the day... and everyday!!


Happy Father's Day to all!

jaded iconoclast

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Re: 32 Cabriolet that was in the same Spokane family for 75 years
« Reply #40 on: June 17, 2018, 12:22:44 PM »
Here it is after I let it idle way down... less than 300 rpm; maybe 250.
Think of all the guys that freak out and post on forums when their SBC is below 20 lbs at idle... ;D
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