Canadian Pontiac's 50's and 60's

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Canadian Pontiac's 50's and 60's
« on: February 28, 2017, 08:30:18 PM »
From the  mid fifties to the mid sixties the Pontiacs made in Canada had Chevy chassis and drivetrains.  Lets have a place to show some off.

Differences from US Pontiacs

The Parisienne entered the production lineup as a sub-series within the Laurentian line in the 1958 model year. Parisienne became a separate model in 1959.

For most of its life, the Parisienne was the Canadian nameplate for the top-of-the-line model sold in GM of Canada's Pontiac showrooms. Parisiennes were distinct from other Canadian Pontiac models by their standard features: the luxuriousness of upholstery fabrics; standard equipment such as courtesy interior and trunk lights; bright trim mouldings in the interior; distinct exterior accent chrome pieces; and availability of two- and four-door hardtops and convertibles.

In particular, Canadian "full size" Pontiacs were actually closely related to Chevrolets, making use of the economical Chevrolet chassis and drivetrain, though with the American Pontiac-styled exterior body panels (They weren't the same as U.S. Pontiac panels since they had to fit the shorter-wheelbase 119-inch Chevrolet "X" frame. U.S. Pontiacs used a full perimeter frame.) and interior instrument panels. As Chevrolets under the skin, Canadian Pontiacs including the Parisienne used the same engines and transmissions as full-size Chevys, including the 230 and 250 cubic inch 6 cylinder and 283, 307, 327, 350, 396, 400, 409, 427 and 454 cu inch V8s. These engines were mated to the same transmissions as Chevrolet, including 3 and 4 speed manual and the 2 speed Powerglide and later the three-speed Turbo-Hydramatic automatic transmissions.

The first Parisienne, offered for the 1958 model year, was a super deluxe "halo" model in the Laurentian line, much like Chevrolet's Bel Air Impala of the same year. Chevrolet's Ramjet fuel injection system, introduced in 1957 in the U.S., was a Parisienne option as well. It was marketed as the "Power Chief" option, but it was identical to Chevy's Ramjet. Also available for the first year Parisienne was Chevrolet's Turboglide automatic transmission.

Built in the same GM of Canada assembly plant in Oshawa, Ontario, Pontiacs had parallel model lineups as "full size" Chevrolets: the Pontiac "Strato Chief" had similar trim level and upholstery as Chevrolet's "Biscayne", the "Laurentian" matched the trim level of the Chevrolet "Bel Air" and while the Parisienne offered similar amenities as Chevrolet's "Impala", the Pontiac version had unique and more costly upholstery fabrics, and beginning in 1964 the "Custom Sport" (later rebadged the "2+2") two-door hardtop and convertible model line was in lock-step with Chevrolet's "Super Sport". Finally, starting in 1966 Pontiac offered the "Grande Parisienne", a two-door and four-door hardtop models parallel to Chevrolet's luxurious "Caprice," although Grande Parisiennes through 1968 used the styling of the US-market Grand Prix. Though most of its life, the Parisienne resembled the US-market Bonneville despite its Chevrolet underpinnings.

In contrast, the Pontiac Motor Division of GM in the US manufactured models with drivetrains, chassis and equipment unique from the other GM stablemates—Chevrolet, Oldsmobile, Buick, and Cadillac. Through much of the 1950s through 1970s, the American Pontiac model lineup included the "Catalina", "Ventura", "Executive", "Star Chief" and as the top of the line model, the "Bonneville". Additionally, unique to the US lineup until 1969 was the "Grand Prix", a distinct 2-door hardtop model with unique styling features and both luxury and "sporty" accoutrements such high output V8s, bucket seats, tachometers and flashy trim pieces.

The mix of Pontiac exterior styling on an economical Chevrolet chassis and drivetrain at a price point marginally higher than Chevrolet, was a huge marketing success for GM of Canada. For decades "full-size" Pontiacs took third place behind Chevrolet and Ford in sales, typically 70,000 plus units annually. In contrast, heavier and bulkier American Pontiacs, with far higher sticker prices and higher operating costs due to large displacement V8s requiring high octane fuel, would have little appeal in the Canadian marketplace for a number of reasons: a population base one tenth the size of the US, a less stratified society with lower disposable incomes, more prudent spending and savings sensibilities and far higher taxes and gasoline prices.[citation needed] On the manufacturing side, maintaining unique part availability for a low sales vehicle along with import-export tariffs and barriers between the U.S. and Canada would make the sale of American Pontiacs unprofitable in Canada.
European version of the Parisienne

In 1977, GM had downsized its full-sized lineup. Pontiac continued with the Catalina and Bonneville nameplates it had used since 1973, but the cars failed to manage the sales volume of their divisional siblings and were dropped completely in 1981. However, the Bonneville name was then simply switched to the smaller G-body Pontiac (the cousin of the Chevrolet Malibu, Oldsmobile Cutlass, and Buick Regal) for 1982. Previously, those cars had been sold as the LeMans, but sales were poor and GM decided to swap nameplates on the grounds that Bonneville carried higher name recognition among customers.

With the recession of 1979–82 lifting and gas prices beginning to drop, sales of larger cars began to pick up and so Pontiac dealers began demanding the return of the full-sized B-body line. However, the assembly plants used for the Catalina/Bonneville had been converted over to other uses, thus GM had to now source Pontiac B-bodies from Canada, where the line had not been discontinued.

Even though the re-sized Bonneville was also sold in Canada, the full-size Parisienne continued for 1982, although its distinct Pontiac front- and rear-end treatments and interiors were largely replaced with Chevrolet components (described in detail below). At the request of US Pontiac dealerships who still wanted a full-size rear wheel drive car to replace the lost U.S. market share and gain back traditional Pontiac customers who longed for a large rear wheel drive car, the Parisienne was imported from Oshawa, Ontario, Canada and sold in the United States beginning in the 1983 model year, retaining the model name "Parisienne" and specs from the Canadian original. Externally, it was a rebadged Chevrolet Impala (1983-84 models (and 1982 in Canada) had the Impala rear taillight panel fitted with Pontiac-spec taillight lenses, whereas the nose was borrowed from the Chevrolet Caprice fitted with a Pontiac grille). The 1985 and 1986 models resumed use of the rear-end styling from the 1980 to 1981 Bonneville. Two Parisienne ranges were sold: a base model (similar to the former Catalina and the then-current Oldsmobile Delta 88 Royale) in four-door sedan and Safari station wagon form, and a more-luxurious Brougham four-door sedan (with velour upholstery that featured loose-pillow fitted seats). The two-door version of the 1977-81 B-bodies did not return to the US market, although it persisted in Canada through 1983.
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Re: Canadian Pontiac's 50's and 60's
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2017, 08:35:13 PM »
a few Pontiac Parisienne's  62, 64, 68...
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2017, 08:37:34 PM »
The 1958 engine line up,  bet that fuel injection model is ultra rare!
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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2017, 08:41:19 PM »
63 Canadian Pontiac Parisienne Safari... factory 409 4 speed... and meets Stock PERFECTLY
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2017, 08:48:25 PM »
66 Pontiac Beamont..................a version of the Chevelle
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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2017, 08:50:23 PM »
1963 Pontiac Acadian..........................suspiciously like a Nova..........
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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2017, 08:53:17 PM »
Bert Straus,  wowed the pro stock series with this Pontiac.......
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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2017, 10:21:59 PM »
Thank you, Davy!  Nice history lesson.

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« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2017, 10:08:59 AM »
Another great learning experience for me, thanks!
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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2017, 12:09:23 PM »
Here's a rare one. Conroy Pontiac 1967 427 Cheetah/Beaumont SD. Note the very different dash from a Chevelle.
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« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2017, 06:35:39 PM »
50's Pontiac Sedan delivery. ::) Same car. Boy I wish gas was still that price! http://progress-is-fine.blogspot.ca/2017/05/cars-i-wish-id-kept-1955-pontiac-sedan.html
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« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2017, 07:48:17 PM »
1968 Beaumont.
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« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2017, 04:31:50 PM »
66 Pontiac Beamont..................a version of the Chevelle

Davey, a friend of mine has a '65 300hp 327 4 speed Sport Deluxe convert he bought back in the seventies. 29bowtie knows him too. His younger brother had a '68 396 auto SD, green with a white interior and a white vinyl top, but that car is long gone.
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« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2017, 06:40:46 PM »
Still lots of them showing up around here.....just cool to watch someone who has never heard of them trying to figure it out...

How about a Pontiac Acadian Invader?
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« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2017, 07:12:39 PM »
Still lots of them showing up around here.....just cool to watch someone who has never heard of them trying to figure it out...

How about a Pontiac Acadian Invader?
Another friend of mine has a '65 Acadian Sport Deluxe, which is supposed to be pretty rare in its own right. US guys, think '65 Nova SS, but with a Pontiac type split grill, different trim, gauges, ect.
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« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2017, 07:31:36 PM »
here ya go.....    those rally wheels must be super rare!!
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« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2017, 09:12:13 PM »
I don't think those were oem on Acadian Sport Deluxes, they are '66 GTO "Ralley" wheels. My buddies car has full wheel covers that look a lot like '65 Corvette full wheelcovers, but are 14".
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« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2017, 09:19:13 PM »
Heres the wheelcovers that are on my buddies '65 Acadian SD, I'm not 100% certain, but I THINK these are oem for Beaumont and Acadian Sport Deluxes in '65. These are whats on my buddies '65 Beaumont convertible too. The front ones were on it when he bought it in '76 or '77 the rears were missing, I remember when he snagged that car. This lady named Sandy that lived down the street from him had been using it as a daily driver. Its black with a black top and white buckets.
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« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2017, 09:29:07 PM »
Nice little hardtop......  as to the wheels you are probably right on that.......
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« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2017, 09:42:38 PM »
Nice little hardtop......  as to the wheels you are probably right on that.......
Just so I am clear, the red car is not my buddies Acadian SD, its an internet photo I found that has the same wheelcovers. I think the Acadian/Beaumont wheelcovers in that pic might be pretty much the same as the '64 GTO full wheelcovers, but the lettering on the fake knock-off in the center is different?
EDIT: Just checked, they are not the same as '64 GTO. Probably unique to '65 Beaumonts and Acadian Sport Deluxes. Betcha they are pretty rare!
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« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2017, 05:07:08 PM »
Great looking Beaumont Sport Deluxe convertible from Mark Rogerson's pics from the ELTA.
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« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2017, 06:46:35 PM »
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« Reply #22 on: September 04, 2017, 02:47:59 PM »
a couple of 69 Beaumont's and an Acadian rag top
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« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2017, 08:25:12 PM »
Pontiac Acadian Canso.
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« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2017, 03:20:52 PM »
63 Acadian LT1 4 speed.
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« Reply #25 on: December 26, 2017, 07:10:49 PM »
1966 Acadian Canso L79 Sports Coupe. Very rare unrestored fully documented car with matching numbers front to back. 327/350 HP, Muncie 4 speed, 12 bolt positrac. Rare metallic brakes, PB, full wheel covers, radio delete.
Documentation includes; original bill of sale, protect-o-plate, GM of Canada documents, bills and service records from new, owner's manual.
Original rust free floors and trunk, good chrome and trim, excellent interior, original tailpipes with factory resonators. One owner car up until a year ago. This rare L79 Acadian is one of two non-SD Acadian’s known and listed in the L79 registry.
Asking $59,900.00 For more information please call Matt at 905-541-8093 or Dave at 416-917-4117. Binbrook Ontario.

$59,900 CDN = $54,200 USD

Hard to believe someone kept this for so long and so clean
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« Reply #26 on: December 26, 2017, 07:13:32 PM »
Just love sharing cool rides...and wish I had deep pockets as this would be in my garage......
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« Reply #27 on: December 27, 2017, 12:30:24 PM »
Bowtie, remember the green SD396 that Donnie Lynum had? Green with a white buckets interior, white vinyl top and horseshoe shifter?
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« Reply #28 on: December 27, 2017, 09:51:52 PM »
In 1965 Gary Wright in Chatham Ont. ordered a 65 Beaumont SD convertible [Canadian version of the Chevelle]  from Davy Lowes Pontiac/ Buick in Chatham . The car was red with a white interior and top. A L79 327 350 h.p. 4 speed car. Took him 6 months to get the car. Ran 13.8 with Atlas bucrons on the rear. In mid 68 I took it in on trade and became the 3 owner. I didn't like the car and traded it off in a few months . Years later Gary  tracked it down but to make a long story short it was later  supposedly crushed. I'm told it is one of one and every time I see Gary he rubs it in. I have recently been told it may [in some way] still exist and be  in the St. Catherines area . Time will tell.    In 1966 I bought a 66 Acadian 2 door sedan [ Canadian version of the Chevy 2]  dark green from Glencoe Chevrolet a small rural town in Ontario It was a L79 327 350 h.p. with a 3 speed on the column. They couldn't get rid of it because of the 3 speed. I had a 4 speed in it  within weeks of buying it and with some other small changes became a 12.7 sec. car. It was crashed and became a 427 straight axle car with buzzed rear wheel wells. I'm told it ended up in the Hamilton Ont. area [around 1968] but have never been able to trace it.

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« Reply #29 on: January 01, 2018, 01:58:31 PM »
Bowtie, remember the green SD396 that Donnie Lynum had? Green with a white buckets interior, white vinyl top and horseshoe shifter?
I sure do. Mark Westerhof had one as well.
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« Reply #30 on: January 09, 2018, 10:08:29 PM »
Acadian.
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« Reply #31 on: June 17, 2018, 11:56:09 AM »
 ;)
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« Reply #32 on: June 17, 2018, 11:57:39 AM »
 :D
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« Reply #33 on: June 17, 2018, 12:02:09 PM »
 8)
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« Reply #34 on: June 17, 2018, 12:03:33 PM »
 ::)
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« Reply #35 on: June 17, 2018, 12:18:22 PM »
8)
Not 100% certain, but I think the second one down is Doug Currans brothers old race car. Sure looks like it.
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« Reply #36 on: June 17, 2018, 12:52:04 PM »
Somewhere in all my period documentation, I have a late sixties ad for the Beaumont Cheetahs.
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« Reply #37 on: June 17, 2018, 01:05:49 PM »
C-code trim plate for my Oshawa built Chevy II 100 Wagon

I have been calling it Ermine White, looking at this, and considering it was built in Oshawa, now I am wondering if I should be calling it "Provincial White"? ;D
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« Reply #38 on: June 19, 2018, 12:02:34 PM »
The Oshawa plant is dormant right now; hopefully it gets awarded a vehicle soon.

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« Reply #39 on: June 19, 2018, 03:05:16 PM »
The Oshawa plant is dormant right now; hopefully it gets awarded a vehicle soon.
If NAFTA falls apart, it may get a whole new lease on life!
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